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Chicago, IL Police!!!!!!! They did NYPD, Why not some from another great city!!!!!!

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(Swat van not Chicago, Just cool!!!!!) Great vehicles, why not make more police.

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awesome i agree they should start makin these

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The 1/24 police line bombed. And, PTH released two Chicago PD models last year, a LDV Command Post, and a E350 Dive Rescue Truck. Not the best sellers. I have the LDV, but the Dive truck was not well recieved.

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The 1/24 and 1/18 police market are pretty well covered by Maisto, Motor Max, Welly, Custom Metal Works and Auto Art. The only real value in Code 3's brief entry into that market was the police Camaro's.

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These would be 1/64 so ignore the 1/24 and 1/18.

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One LDV was FD, this would open new doors for Code 3

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 The LDVs have been, for the most part, bombs. The Code 3-issued Chicago FD LDV was first of all a fantasy piece. Us Chicago FD fans looked past that at first, but when they didn't change out the blue light on the front from the police version, that was a deal breaker for me.

I did get the Chicago PD LDV Past-Time exclusive. Fits nice in my collection. I'd welcome a NYPD version as well.

Milwaukee, and the O'hare LDVs ended up at my local KB Toy Liquidators. And they actually gave away dozens of the LAPD LDVs at an event here in Los Angeles that my friend was working an EMS standby at. They seriously couldn't give those away.

I think that door is pretty much closed.

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There's already a huge diecast police market, which is dominantly 1/43. Go to policecarmodels.com and there's an entire page of 1/43 manufactuers.

Spec Cast is also doing 1/64 cars, although all of them are State agencies and the line is somewhat limited. Believe me, I'd love to have 1/64 police cars to go alongside my fire engines.

Some specialized police stuff from Code 3 would be great, but let's leave the police cars for someone else so Code 3 can concentrate on getting the fire trucks right.

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Well, what about JUST the CHOPPER!!!!

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I can actually see them doing the chopper. With a Jet Ranger mold, they could also do Los Angeles FD and Los Angeles County FD, and I believe NYPD still has Jet Rangers in service.

A Fire 5 or Fire 6 would go great with the previous LAFD helos released. Bring on the Jet Ranger.

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I think it would be something new.

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They can't get the fire trucks right anyway. AND why does everybody bring up different scales, these are supposed to be 1/64, so don't bring up any of the other scales, and if C3 wasn't intrested in police, they would've never done 'em in the first place.

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and if C3 wasn't intrested in police, they would've never done 'em in the first place.

-donmateo

Yes, but remember that was 10 years ago and there were different owners then. I still like mine. I have 3 Camaros and 4 Crown Vics. But they don't come close to Classic Metal Works in quality. The PD market is completely saturated and most of them do pretty good models too. I think it would be very expensive for Code 3 to do PD's again and the more you put on the market the less you can make money off them.

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I'm a police collector and would love to see Code 3 get into police vehicles again, but since they are almost (except for the DPs) exclusively doing 1:64th scale, they're probably be better off making unusual, large size models like command posts, bomb squads, SWAT vans, etc. I sent John D. photos of some Mack M and Ford F450 SWAT trucks from various northern NJ PDs that use equipment identical to the NYPD trucks Code 3 already made, but with much more interesting black and white color schemes. I also have suggested Code 3 use its Pierce license and chassis to make some of the Pierce command posts and HAZMAT trucks (posted photos of a couple on the forum several months ago). My e-mail was acknowledged but no promises or even hopes for police vehicles.

As to some of the comments above: SpecCast dropped their 1:64th (actually closer to about 1:67 or 1:66) scale police car line years ago. They were nice cars, but only on the market a short time. In my humble opinion, they released too many at a time. While they were accurate for the most part, they unfortunately followed the Road Chumps model of painting full wheel covers black to simulate the "steel" wheels and only had two types of lightbar. A number of collectors have said there's a need for a true 1:64th scale police (and fire chief) car that would fit with Code 3's apparatus in quality and scale. While there are some police car lines on the market, they're mostly 1:43rd (admittedly the favorite scale for police collectors), leaving the 1:64th market virtually wide open, other than an occasional car from Greenlight or Johnny Lightning. And no one is making Tahoes, Expeditions or Suburbans as police vehicles in 1:64th, let alone the specialist vehicles mentioned above, many of which would be too large for 1:43rd. The problem with 1:64th police cars is they're so small they won't sell for much so there's not as much of a profit unless sold in huge numbers - just my opinion. Code 3 could consider doing a police car or SUV in the markings of cities for which they've already released fire trucks - that would appeal to an existing collector base, plus the police collectors, and may be easier to arrange licensing since they've already done the fire apparatus.

Re: the Chicago models, I have the LDV from Past Time Hobbies and it's great as well as worth the price. However, I passed on the converted ambulance because 50 bucks for a 1:64th E350 ambulance casting was way too much, even for a diehard police collector.

Years ago, Code 3 promised it would not forget the law enforcement collectors. Well, apart from the 3 NYPD ESU models (which are great), what has Code 3 given the police collector in the past 3-5 years?

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I agree, if you don't ,ind, could you post some of those police pics?

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Well to quote the part about unusual size, C3 would just have to be a bit more careful to make a smaller model.

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I agree, if you don't ,ind, could you post some of those police pics?

Here's a link to photos of Mack M and Ford F450 ESU trucks of the Jersey City PD; couldn't post the photos as they're copyrighted:

http://www.fdnytrucks.com/files/html/otherstates/Hudson%20County/Jersey%20City%20ESU.htm (for some reason the link doesn't work from the post, but if you copy and past the URL it works - the one below works from the link)

Here's a link to the company that makes the Ford ESU REPs - there are photos of several nice ones on their site:

http://www.odysseyauto.com/vehicles/rescue/jcpdesu.html#

Here are photos of the FBI's Pierce Command Post at the Washington Field Office in DC and the US Capitol Police Pierce HAZMAT truck. I've also included a photo of a nice LDV CP that would look good for the Code 3 mold (this is from Baltimore, would go well with the fire apparatus), a stretched Ford HAZMAT truck also from the Capitol Police, and a unique command post that I would love for someone to make - the "Mother of All CPs" from the Maryland State Police, built on a Kenworth chassis, about as long as a tractor trailer but it's a straight truck, not articulated like a semi.

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Very Cool!

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Id buy em all, listen up C3, we need some of these in production, its new and different.

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